Episode 470 — AMMA — Owner Dependency Is Quietly Killing Your Firm
The most valuable thing you can build into your firm is its ability to run without you.
In this AMMA episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill answer the questions most firm owners put off until it’s too late. When should you really start succession planning? How do you pick a successor without letting loyalty override the right call? And how do you build something worth more than the income it generates while you’re in it? Michael makes the case that a firm dependent on its owner is a firm that’s quietly losing value, and he lays out what it takes to change that. Plus, he kicks things off with his favorite recent movies, shows, and books.
Here’s what you’ll learn:
- Why succession planning should start at least five years out, and what happens when you wait until your back’s against the wall
- How to separate the discomfort of a hard conversation from the decision that’s actually right for the business
- What it takes to turn your firm into an asset that grows whether or not you show up
If something happened to you tomorrow, would your firm survive without you? Build like the answer needs to be yes.
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Show Notes:
Most owners wait until they’re ready to leave, and by then it’s too late. “I would start thinking about it at least five years out, you know, maybe longer, because it takes a lot of time to put these different pieces in place.”
There’s a reason you keep dragging out the conversation you know you need to have. “The discomfort you face or having a hard conversation should not outweigh the impact of what that could make for all of these people who rely on you.”
Picking a successor doesn’t have to mean blindsiding the people in the running. “Clarity is kindness. You can be transparent with both of them and say, here’s what I’m looking for.”
There’s a simple test for what your firm is actually worth. “The value of your law firm is inversely proportional to its dependency on you, meaning that the more you are necessary for the day to day, the less valuable your firm is.”
A decade in, the grind should be loosening its grip, not tightening it. “If over time it doesn’t get easier, you’re probably doing it wrong.”
Michael used to admire the 100-hour week. Now he asks a different question. “If somebody tells me, hey, I work 20 hours a week, and last year we did $50 million in revenue at the firm, like, that’s a fist bump.”
- Togo
- Altered Carbon
- Spider-Man Noir
- The Penguin
- Godzilla Minus One
- King Kong (2005)
- Fallout
- Not Just a Goof
- Thinking in Bets by Annie Duke
- Everything You Want Is on the Other Side of Hard by Ken Rideout
- Smile, or You’re Doing It Wrong by Andy Glaze
- The Power of the Dog by Don Winslow
- The Cartel by Don Winslow
- The Border by Don Winslow
- We Are Legion (We Are Bob) by Dennis E. Taylor
- Project Hail Mary by Andy Weir
- Life Is Luck by John Morgan
- You Can’t Teach Hungry by John Morgan
- You Can’t Teach Vision by John Morgan
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