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Episode 408 — Why Credibility Is the Ultimate Way to Advertise

What does it take to build a brand so strong it outlasts markets, competitors, and entire eras of legal marketing?

As part of the “Road to the Summit”, a special series ramping up to the 2025 Game Changers Summit this November 12-13, we’re revisiting some of the most powerful conversations ever featured at our events. In this encore episode of the Game Changing Attorney Podcast, we revisit the legendary Power Players Panel live from the 2021 Game Changers Summit.

Michael Mogill sits down with Alexander Shunnarah, Roopal Luhana, Joe Fried, and Harlan Schillinger, four industry icons who have redefined leadership, innovation, and influence in the legal world. From personal transformation and authenticity to the rise of digital dominance and firm ownership shifts, this discussion uncovers how the best continue to rise while others fall behind.

Here’s what you’ll learn:

  • Why staying on top requires constant reinvention and relentless commitment to growth
  • How to build credibility and client loyalty through honesty and exceptional service
  • What it takes to future-proof your firm in an era of non-lawyer ownership and corporate disruption

These are the voices shaping the next generation of law, and this conversation will show you how to stand among them.

Show Notes:

Brand is everything. “Advertising is a tactic, but brand is everything.” — Harlan Schillinger

Consistency compounds. “You have to consistently do marketing for at least a decade before it sticks.” — Alexander Shunnarah

Purpose fuels longevity. “You just continue to do things that you like. When you have passion, you don’t retire.” — Harlan Schillinger

Honesty builds credibility. “You want to know the trick to being viewed as the most credible person in the courtroom? You just have to wake up every single day and make a commitment to live honestly.” — Joe Fried

Anger can drive impact. “My anger and passion to hold companies accountable is what fuels me to keep fighting for my clients.” — Roopal Luhana

Invest in your people. “I’ve made a lot of millionaires in my firm. When you invest in your people, they buy in and lift others up.” — Alexander Shunnarah

The client experience is everything. “Your clients will remember how you made them feel, not just the result you got them.” — Roopal Luhana

Run your firm like a business. “If I wasn’t a businessman, I wouldn’t be in business today, no matter how good a lawyer I am.” — Harlan Schillinger

Lead with passion. “Find your passion and focus on it, because passion is what will beat the corporate players every time.” — Joe Fried

Take action before it’s perfect. “You never get it right the first time. Do it, correct it, and keep improving.” — Harlan Schillinger

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