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Episode 305 — John Morgan — Luck, Hustle, and the Art of Disruption: Building America’s Largest Law Firm

Welcome to The Game Changing Attorney Podcast’s exclusive “Road to the Summit” mini-series! As we count down to the 2024 Game Changers Summit — the #1 Law Firm Growth Conference on Earth — we’re bringing you the most impactful conversations from past events and episodes featuring the powerhouse speakers you’ll see this year.

In this electrifying conversation, we’re diving into the mindset, strategies, and lessons from none other than John Morgan — a true legal titan and one of the most successful attorneys in the world. From building the largest personal injury firm in America to redefining legal marketing, John shares how he scaled his empire with grit, vision, and relentless ambition.

Here’s what you’ll learn:

  • How John’s “teacup” strategy helped him dominate new markets and scale nationally
  • Why recognizing the role of luck can shape your success
  • The key to long-term growth through relationships and integrity

If you’re ready to get fired up and take your firm to the next level, this episode is packed with insights you won’t want to miss. The Road to the Summit starts here!

Episode 305 — John Morgan — Luck, Hustle, and the Art of Disruption: Building America’s Largest Law Firm
Show Notes:

Growing the firm in the early stages. “It was a way of thinking I used when I was growing out of Orlando. I call it the teacup. I got a teacup, and I am pouring water into the teacup. Once the water starts pouring over the teacup and we get to diminishing returns, I can’t grow this business anymore. In Orlando I’d kind of plateaued, then I would move to the next city. And then that was Tampa. And then it was Jacksonville. And then it was Fort Myers. So that’s the way I built it.”

Life is luck. “Luck plays such an important role in everything we do, from the girl we marry to the kids we have to just being born. The odds of being born are trillions to one, just to be born. And then to be born in America instead of somewhere else. So I don’t spend a lot of time patting myself on the back. I spend more time thinking, ‘Thank you, thank you, thank you.’ Life is luck.”

Defining success. “I define success by my relationships with the people who’ve been in business with me and people who’ve done business with me, and then they continue to do business with me because over all these years I did what I said I was going to do.”

Competing with so many firms. “I can’t help them by just staying out of their market, but I can help them get better by going into their market. Because when I do go in, there’s a seminar that somebody does— I’ve seen it — and the topic is ‘What do you do when John Morgan comes into your market?’ There’s an actual seminar with CLE credits.”

Those that give also get the most. “A bus in Jacksonville, Florida killed a child in the mother’s arms, in her hands. My investigator called me back and he said, ‘Hey, we got this case. I want to tell you how we got it.’ I go, ‘Well, how did we get it?’ He said, ‘The woman was a waitress at Bob Evans in Lake Mary,’ where I live. ‘One Christmas Eve a couple of years ago, you went in for breakfast, you paid your bill, and you left her a $100 tip.'”

Are you a lion or a sloth? “In the jungle today, a lion will be born, and that lion is the king of the jungle just because he or she is a lion. The same day, a sloth will be born. Same day, same jungle, same deal. That sloth is so fucked. He can’t even describe it. All he can do is barely muster up enough energy to come down the tree, grab some berries, go to the bathroom, go back up, and go to sleep.”

The fear of failure. “I have been desperate. I have been poor. I have been in a situation where I didn’t know where I was going to turn. There’s no worse feeling in the world than to have a financial crisis and not know how you’re going to solve it. The only way I ever knew to solve it was to work my way out of it.”

What a competitor could do to wipe John Morgan out. “I don’t think anybody could wipe me out. I don’t think anybody works harder than me. I don’t think anybody has the imagination that I have. Look, there was never anybody on the back of phone books until me. Before I went to law school I sold Yellow Pages and I thought, ‘You know, that’d be the place I’d rather be because that’s a 50/50 chance of just being found right there.’ There were no lawyers on billboards until me. There were no lawyers on the buses until me. I don’t think anybody could ever put me out of business. The only person that could put me out of business would be me. I believe that I’m the greatest legal marketer in the history of legal marketing. We’re going to do almost $1 billion in fees this year. We spent $150 million in advertising. So to totally put me out of business would be hard. Only I could hurt myself.”

Calculating risks. “The way I calculate risk is with the concept of bullets before bombs. Before I go in and do something, I go in with bullets and see if it works. I don’t go in with a bomb. Why would I go in with a bomb? I start running some mesothelioma ads on CNN, and it works. I do some more bullets on MSNBC, and then I do some bullets on Fox, and all of a sudden I let the bombs out. So my risks are calculated risks, and it’s bullets before bombs. Once I know the bullets are working — once I know what I’m doing is working — then and only then do I unleash. A lot of people make a huge mistake by going in before they’re ready.”

Non-negotiable values. “I value mercy more than justice. I’m not as hard as some people are, but a non-negotiable for me are liars and cheats and people who are unethical. I don’t want to have anything to do with them. I don’t want to be with them. I don’t want people who cut corners. That type of person? That’s the cancer that gets in your system and destroys it.”

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