Brian Panish
Brian Panish

Episode 178 — Brian Panish — Champions Compete with Themselves

In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael sits down with Brian Panish, an experienced trial attorney and the Founding Partner of Panish | Shea | Boyle | Ravipudi. Brian has established himself as a prominent figure in the legal realm — but it was no easy feat.

During their conversation, Michael and Brian discuss:

  • The relentless pursuit of victory
  • How to become a true champion
  • Why self improvement is a never-ending journey
Episode 178 — Brian Panish — Champions Compete with Themselves
Show Notes:

Passion begets greatness. “It’s about winning. It’s about competition. It’s about being relentless and never giving up. But the most important thing is passion for what you do. For me, it’s about the clients. I just love hearing all of the different stories from all these different people. There are only three areas where there’s always a winner and a loser in today’s society: politics, athletics, and courtroom law. When you have a bad loss, you can’t sit around and think about it. You’ve got to go back to the next day to practice and move on. So we have a 24-hour rule here where you can celebrate or commiserate for one day and then it’s time to move on.”

Culture trumps all. “The most important thing in a law firm is its culture. If you have people who are committed to the firm’s goals, then you’ve got a strong culture. But if you have people who are complaining and saying negative things, then it starts going around the firm unless you have strong leadership and a consistent culture. That culture defines who you are and what you want to be. For us, our culture is getting the best results for the clients and doing the best work. We’re going to continue to do a great job and build our brand and our reputation and continue to get better. If you do that, you’re going to be successful. But if people don’t want to work, then I’m the first to tell them that they can go ahead and leave.”

The client comes first. “Lawyers need to be dedicated to the practice and the clients, and they’ve got to know about the cases. They’ve got to work hard, but they need to know that it’s not about them. It’s always about the client. It’s not about them getting a big verdict or getting in the headlines. It’s about doing the right thing for the client. If you keep that in mind, you’ll always be right. It’s when you stray from that and try to get a bigger verdict or go out to the media — sometimes people are too into themselves.”

Compete with yourself. “One time I was fishing with my dad and these guys across from us were catching all kinds of fish. And I was getting frustrated that they were beating us, but my dad said, ‘In life, you need to compete with yourself, not others.’ We see what other firms are doing and I have respect for them, but we try not to focus on them as we run our own practice.”

What does being a game changer mean to you? “Being a game changer means helping people, developing quality lawyers, and continuing on this practice that we have. Success is not about money. You obviously want to win the cases or else you’re not going to be able to support your people. But I think I’m successful because I enjoy what I’m doing every day. I’ve never had a day where I dreaded driving into the office — even though there can be some stressful days. If you love what you do, then you’re successful.”

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